Joe French: barefoot running and PTSD

In this episode of the Runners World Podcast, hosts Rick Pearson and Ben Hobson speak with Joe French, a filmmaker and climber whose new book, 'Out of Mind,' explores trauma and recovery through running. Joe shares his journey into climbing and film production, highlighting his encounters with significant tragedies while filming on Everest, which contributed to his experience with PTSD.

Joe recounts how witnessing harrowing events, including the deaths of Sherpas in an avalanche and the devastation caused by the 2015 earthquake in Nepal, affected his mental health. He discusses symptoms of PTSD, such as nightmares and flashbacks, and his exploration of these experiences through writing.

He explains how he found solace in barefoot running, which helped him build a focus on foot placement and breathing, creating a therapeutic escape from his troubled thoughts. Joe also touches on the contrasting relationship he developed with nature through both traumatic experiences and the healing aspect of running barefoot. He emphasizes the importance of feeling grounded and connected to nature in his recovery process.

In addition to running barefoot, Joe highlights the benefits of cold water immersion as a method to manage stress and trauma. The conversation concludes with Joe reflecting on how he has reconciled his passion for climbing with his experiences and the ongoing journey of managing his mental health.